cant clone over bad sectors....need Help Please.

[DukeB]

Have a lap top. It said it's drive was going bad, plus random BSODs. So I tried to clone it. I used a Star tech 2 bay external dock (usb 3) off of a desktop computer. Tried paragon, and acronis to clone the lap top drive to another empty laptop drive in the docking station. Both pieces of cloning software stop......and wont run any further. THey get to the part where it says having problems reading something snapshot...." and I hit ignore all, and then nothing..... I tried the disc scan an repair in windows, and tried the cloning again....but still it wouldn't do it. Is their anyway to repair the disc or somehting so I can atleast get most of it over onto a usable drive?

[Tom]

If indeed the original drive is going bad (which is something you should verify: http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/dp_manual/guide_smartcheck.htm) you can't use tools like the disk imagers that you've used so far. You'll need a cloning tool, like for instance DiskPatch. This bit will explain a bit more, in the form of a walkthrough:
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/dp_manual/guide_clone.htm
and this bit (from the manual) explains things in more detail:
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/dp_manual/clone.htm

[DukeB]

WIn7 x64 is saying H:\SMARTCHK.EXE is not compatible and is asking if I need "a x86 (32bit) or x64 (64 bit) version of the program. Also I tried booting from the USB....but that didn't work either (boot from "usb ZIP" does nothing and rebooting from "USB fdd" brings up windows in its entirety.....on a red screen..  I formatted the usb stick in FAT not FAT32 like it said to.....it's just blinking.

[Tom]

You installed DiskPatch and followed the included instructions (from the start menu select "create bootable USB key for DiskPatch") and it didn't work? That's very unlikely. From your description it sounds like you are doing it wrong. You need to either create a bootable USB key and start the PC from that, or create the bootable CD and start the PC from that. The manual clearly explains, in the first 3 pages, which is not that much to read through.

If you want to clone the disk you'll need to create that bootable USB key or CD to get started. You should also check to see if the target disk (in the USB enclosure) can be seen by DiskPatch; usually it's preferable to connect all disks directly, but if you have no way to do that then USB might do, if it works.

[DukeB]

I tried to clone it but it freezes up. The bad disc will still boot, I found this out by accident moving back and forth from boot devices in the bios. I disabled error check (set 0 instead of 32)...and still it freezes up. I didn't start a log or anything, I wanted to clone first, and fix new disc.

[Joep]

I disabled error check (set 0 instead of 32)...and still it freezes up.

How long did you give it to recover? Even with retries set to zero it may take a while before DiskPatch responds. DiskPatch not responding does not mean it froze: DiskPatch runs in a single task environment which means as soon as it requests a sector to be read it passes control over the PC to the system BIOS. It can only respond as soon as the BIOS released control over the system. The BIOS in turn is waiting for the disk. The disk recovering from a single error can take a while. even if DiskPatch requests one sector only, the disk may attempt to read multiple sectors and each read error will add up to recovery time. Experience learns you need to be patient, let it run. Not to hit keys all the time and assume it's hanging if it does not respond straight away or even after a minute.

I disabled error check (set 0 instead of 32)...

Try increasing skipsize as well, try 4096 for example so it gets quicker through those bad areas.

[DukeB]

increased skip to 4096.....and It's been on sector 1650688 for an hour now on first pass.

[Joep]

Well, an hour is too long. I meant you should allow it some time and not immediately switch it off if DiskPatch doesn't respond within a few seconds. Try double skipsize or start cloning somewhere further on the disk. With disks like these you need to experiment and keep your fingers crossed. If the data is mission critical you need to consider a data recovery lab at this point.

If the latter is not an option hook up the disk to a PC you can run Windows on and see if iRecover can image the disk.

It may also help if you post a disk health report http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/dp_manual/guide_smartcheck.htm

EDIT: Would you be willing to try a beta where we improved cloning? If so then email us at support@diydatarecovery.nl

[DukeB]

.../000:01/LOG> ### LOG START ###
.../000:01/LOG> DISKPATCH 3.5.300
.../000:01/LOG> (C) 2000-2009 DIY DataRecovery
.../000:01/LOG> Contact info: http://HTTP://www.DIYDataRecovery.nl
.../000:01/LOG> MemFree: 35Kb
.../000:01/LOG> CommandLineParms: /sup
.../000:01/LOG> LogDate: 03-29-2012
.../000:01/CFG> FilePath="C:DPFILES\"
.../000:01/CFG> ReadRetries="32"
.../000:01/CFG> WriteRetries="32"
.../000:01/CFG> MaxReadErrors="32"
.../000:01/CFG> MaxWriteErrors="1"
.../000:01/CFG> LogEachReadError="1"
.../000:01/CFG> ReadDelay="0"
.../000:01/CFG> VfyFixedBadSect="1"
.../000:01/CFG> CleanAfterDOD="1"
.../000:01/CFG> DiskReset="1"
.../000:01/CFG> SectorSkip="1024"
.../000:01/CFG> AutoSaveState="1"
.../000:01/CFG> DumpFoundSectors="0"
.../000:01/CFG> FixFats="1"
.../000:01/CFG> MaxFatScan="51200"
.../000:01/CFG> MaxDataColEntries="256"
.../000:01/CFG> IgnoreF8FF="0"
.../000:01/CFG> DownSizeExt="1"
.../000:01/CFG> ScanSignature="55AA"
.../000:01/CFG> Rebuild="00"
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H installed test requested
.../000:01/13H> Disk found at 128
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H version: EDD-3.0
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Support: Extended disk access functions
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Support: Enhanced disk drive functions
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Flags: Write with verify supported
.../000:01/13H> Drive Interface Info: USB
.../000:01/13H> Disk 128 X13H data : 487/255/63 7833600/512
.../000:01/13H> Disk found at 129
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H version: EDD-3.0
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Support: Extended disk access functions
.../000:01/13H> Drive Interface Info:
.../000:01/13H> Disk 129 X13H data : 16383/16/63 625142448/512
.../000:01/13H> Disk found at 130
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H version: EDD-3.0
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Support: Extended disk access functions
.../000:01/13H> Drive Interface Info:
.../000:01/13H> Disk 130 X13H data : 16383/16/63 250061423/512
.../000:01/13H> Disk found at 131
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H version: EDD-3.0
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H Support: Extended disk access functions
.../000:01/13H> Drive Interface Info:
.../000:01/13H> Disk 131 X13H data : 16383/16/63 1250263728/512
.../000:01/13H> Ext13H tested ok
.../000:01/FDL> DiskList requested
.../000:01/FDL> Disk found at 128
.../000:01/FDL> Disk found at 129
.../000:01/FDL> Disk found at 130
.../000:01/FDL> Disk found at 131
### DISKLIST.ARRAY ###
__D_|________LBA_|___H_|__S_|__GB_|__GEO
128 | ...7833600 | 255 | 63 | ..3 | BIOS
129 | .625142448 | 255 | 63 | 298 | BIOS
130 | .250061423 | 255 | 63 | 119 | BIOS
131 | 1250263728 | 255 | 63 | 596 | BIOS
.../000:01/IAS> AdmiSector found on disk 0 (128)
.../000:01/IAS> AdmiSector found on disk 1 (129)
.../000:01/IAS> AdmiSector found on disk 2 (130)
.../000:01/IAS> AdmiSector found on disk 3 (131)
.../000:02/EXE> Read/Write pattern test for disk 0 (128) successful
.../000:02/EXE> Read/Write pattern test for disk 1 (129) successful
.../000:03/EXE> Read/Write pattern test for disk 2 (130) successful
.../000:03/EXE> Read/Write pattern test for disk 3 (131) successful
.../000:03/WAS> AdmiSectors in use : 0+ 1+ 2+ 3+
.../000:03/KEY> DEMO/1
.../000:03/PFC> PQstuff signature not detected on disk 0 (128)
.../000:03/PFC> PQstuff signature not detected on disk 1 (129)
.../000:03/PFC> PQstuff signature not detected on disk 2 (130)
.../000:03/PFC> PQstuff signature not detected on disk 3 (131)
.../000:03/PFC> UDMA driver not loaded
.../000:04/PFC> Disk health not checked
.../000:05/PFC> Partition State backup not found on disk 0 (128)
.../000:05/PFC> Partition State backup not found on disk 1 (129)
.../000:05/PFC> Partition State backup not found on disk 2 (130)
.../000:05/PFC> Partition State backup not found on disk 3 (131)
.../000:05/PFC> No Repair date found on disk 0 (128)
.../000:05/PFC> No Repair date found on disk 1 (129)
.../000:05/PFC> No Repair date found on disk 2 (130)
.../000:05/PFC> No Repair date found on disk 3 (131)
.../000:20/CSD> Start CheckDisk for disk 1 (129)
.../000:20/CSD> CheckDisk complete, ReadErrors 0
.../000:20/USD> Disk 1 (129) selected
.../000:20/GSC> No geo change detected for disk 1 (129)
.../000:20/WAS> AdmiSectors in use : 0+ 1+ 2+ 3+
129/000:20/USD> MBR for disk 1 (129)
129/000:20/LOG> SectorDump requested at 0 (0 0 1)
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129/000:20/VEC> Start Verify EPBR Chain for disk 1 (129)
129/000:20/VEC> Listing current partitions on disk:
129/000:20/VEC>     NTFS (P)  System Rese        2048      204800       (0 Gb)
129/000:20/VEC>     NTFS (P)    (no name)      206848   624932864     (298 Gb)
129/000:20/VEC> Partition Table info for sector 0 (0 0 1)
129/000:20/LOG> PartListDump requested at 0 (0 0 1)
### _ACT_|_TYPE_|__START--C/H/S_|__END----C/H/S_|__LBA-start_|_LBA-length
..1 .128 | ..07 | ....0..32..33 | ...12.223..19 | ......2048 | ....204800
..2 ...0 | ..07 | ...12.223..20 | .1023.254..63 | ....206848 | .624932864
..3 ...0 | ..00 | ....0...0...0 | ....0...0...0 | .........0 | .........0
..4 ...0 | ..00 | ....0...0...0 | ....0...0...0 | .........0 | .........0
129/000:20/VEC> 55AA sig Ok
129/000:20/LOG> Boot sector dump requested at 2048 (0 32 33)
### BootSectorDump for BStype NTFS
...........Jump Code (hex): EB5290
............OEM Name (txt): NTFS
....Bytes per Sector (dec): 512
.Sectors per Cluster (dec): 8
....Reserved Sectors (dec): 0
..............Unused (hex): 0000000000
....Media Descriptor (hex): F8
..............Unused (hex): 0000
...Sectors per Track (dec): 63
.....Heads per Track (dec): 255
......Hidden Sectors (dec): 2048
..............Unused (hex): 00000000
.............Unknown (hex): 00800080
.......Total Sectors (dec): 204799
........MFT Location (dec): 8533
.MFT Mirror Location (dec): 2
....Clusters per FRS (dec): 246
.Clusters/Indx Block (dec): 1
...........Volume ID (hex): 6C24F5A624F57404
........Volume Label (txt): System Rese
............Checksum (hex): 00000000
....Sector Signature (hex): AA55
129/000:20/VEC> BS and BBS equal
129/000:20/LOG> Boot sector dump requested at 206848 (12 223 20)
### BootSectorDump for BStype NTFS
...........Jump Code (hex): EB5290
............OEM Name (txt): NTFS
....Bytes per Sector (dec): 512
.Sectors per Cluster (dec): 8
....Reserved Sectors (dec): 0
..............Unused (hex): 0000000000
....Media Descriptor (hex): F8
..............Unused (hex): 0000
...Sectors per Track (dec): 63
.....Heads per Track (dec): 255
......Hidden Sectors (dec): 206848
..............Unused (hex): 00000000
.............Unknown (hex): 00800080
.......Total Sectors (dec): 624932863
........MFT Location (dec): 786432
.MFT Mirror Location (dec): 2
....Clusters per FRS (dec): 246
.Clusters/Indx Block (dec): 1
...........Volume ID (hex): 1A1CF7201CF6F59B
........Volume Label (txt): (no name)
............Checksum (hex): 00000000
....Sector Signature (hex): AA55
129/000:20/VEC> BS and BBS equal
129/000:20/VEC> Verify EPBR Chain completed
129/000:20/USD> Select disk completed
129/000:25/SCN> DiskScan requested, ScanType is 3
129/000:25/SCN> from 0 (0 0 1) to 625142447 (38913 80 63), 625142448 sectors
129/000:25/SCN> Starting QuickScan (vista) at 2048 (0 32 33)
129/000:25/SCN> Next QuickScan location at 206848 (12 223 20)
129/000:26/SCN> Next QuickScan location at 625139712 (38913 37 37)
129/000:26/SCN> Next QuickScan location at 0 (0 0 1)
129/000:27/SCN> QuickScan finished
129/000:27/SCN> Starting SmartScan (vista) at 0 (0 0 1)
129/000:27/RDS> Read past EOD intercept for disk 129 at 4294967295 (267349 89 4)
129/000:58/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15292415 (951 231 48), C:1, T:BBh
129/001:04/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15292416 (951 231 49), C:2, T:BBh
129/001:04/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 15292416 (951 231 49), tries 1
129/001:07/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15417343 (959 174 47), C:2, T:BBh
129/001:14/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15417344 (959 174 48), C:3, T:BBh
129/001:21/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15417350 (959 174 54), C:4, T:BBh
129/001:27/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 15419391 (959 207 16), C:5, T:BBh
129/001:27/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 15419391 (959 207 16), tries 1
129/001:44/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 17692671 (1101 81 4), C:5, T:BBh
129/001:50/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 17692672 (1101 81 5), C:6, T:BBh
129/001:50/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 17692672 (1101 81 5), tries 1
129/001:53/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 17709056 (1102 86 9), C:6, T:BBh
129/001:59/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 17709062 (1102 86 15), C:7, T:BBh
129/001:59/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 17709062 (1102 86 15), tries 1
129/002:06/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 18372607 (1143 163 44), C:7, T:BBh
129/002:12/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 18372608 (1143 163 45), C:8, T:BBh
129/002:19/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 18372614 (1143 163 51), C:9, T:BBh
129/002:19/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 18372614 (1143 163 51), tries 2
129/002:27/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 19152896 (1192 54 15), C:9, T:BBh
129/002:33/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 19152902 (1192 54 21), C:10, T:BBh
129/002:33/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 19152902 (1192 54 21), tries 1
129/002:45/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20701183 (1288 150 14), C:10, T:BBh
129/002:52/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20701184 (1288 150 15), C:11, T:BBh
129/002:52/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 20701184 (1288 150 15), tries 1
129/002:55/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20740095 (1291 2 55), C:11, T:BBh
129/003:01/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20740096 (1291 2 56), C:12, T:BBh
129/003:08/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20740102 (1291 2 62), C:13, T:BBh
129/003:15/RDS> ReadError for disk 129 at 20742143 (1291 35 24), C:14, T:BBh
129/003:15/RDS> ReadSector success (after error) at 20742143 (1291 35 24), tries 1
129/003:21/SCN> DiskScan aborted at JumpSector 0 (0 0 1)
129/003:26/EXE> Analysis aborted
129/003:26/LOG> RunTime: 003:26
129/003:26/LOG> ### CLOSE LOG ###

[Tom]

Not sure we asked for that log, we'd like to see this one:
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/dp_manual/guide_smartcheck.htm

New DiskPatch build is sent. After installing that over the current DiskPatch install you'll need to build a fresh boot disk. It just occurred to me you may be using a USB bootable disk so I'll send another mail that contains just the DP.EXE file, which you'll simply need to put on the USB disk (overwriting the current DP.EXE).

[DukeB]

This is all that comes up for that one.....and thank you I am using a usb stick.

Detected Controllers

  Disk Controller 1
    Device Vendor . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1002
    Device ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 4391
    Device  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ATI
    Device Location . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bus 0, Device 17, Function 0
    Device Ports  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : FF00-FF07, FE00-FE03, FD00-FD07, FC00-FC03, FB00-FB0F

  Disk Controller 2
    Device Vendor . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 197B
    Device ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2363
    Device Location . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bus 7, Device 0, Function 1
    Device Ports  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 8F00-8F07, 8E00-8E03, 8D00-8D07, 8C00-8C03, 8B00-8B0F

[Tom]

Hmm, that's not a good sign.

[DukeB]

Well it does still boot......it's a mess from there....but it boots. I don't suppose that means much.

[DukeB]

Here's the thing.....it's a girlfreind's daughter's laptop. She has all of her college stuff on there. I explained that this 'is not my area', but was talked into it anyway. So far I bought a new drive, acronis, parasomething....and you were my last hope. Is there any way to figgure out where the 'college stuff' would be and somehow get that into a fresh install of win7?

[DukeB]

Ok running beta......skipping at 16gigs. Ran up to .9% (the farthest it has gotten yet). WHen it froze before the little light at the top right of the screen would stay green, and do nothing. THis freeze up the red light at the farthest right is on. THat's new.